Legislature(2019 - 2020)BUTROVICH 205

03/12/2020 03:30 PM Senate STATE AFFAIRS

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+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ SB 210 LICENSE PLATES: SPECIALTY ORGANIZATIONS TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
*+ SB 209 DRIVER LICENSES & IDENT. CARDS FOR INMATE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
+= SJR 14 CONST. AM: VOTES NEEDED FOR VETO OVERRIDE TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+= SB 183 ABANDONED VEHICLES; PRIVATE PROPERTY TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSB 183(STA) Out of Committee
-- Public Testimony --
       SB 209-DRIVER LICENSES & IDENT. CARDS FOR INMATES                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:01:32 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK announced  the consideration of SENATE  BILL NO. 209,                                                               
"An Act  relating to state identifications  and driver's licenses                                                               
for  persons in  the custody  of the  Department of  Corrections;                                                               
relating to  the duties of  the commissioner of  corrections; and                                                               
providing for an effective date."                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
4:01:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR JESSE  KIEHL, Alaska  State Legislature,  Juneau, Alaska,                                                               
speaking as  the sponsor  of SB  209, said that  this bill  is an                                                               
attempt  to  improve  the  success  of  people  leaving  Alaska's                                                               
prisons.   Reentry  is   not  easy   because  of   the  statutory                                                               
requirements  after release.  These people  are required  to stay                                                               
clean  and sober,  to seek  and find  work and  housing, and  not                                                               
commit new crimes.  To fulfill these requirements  and succeed in                                                               
society generally  requires an identification  card (ID)  but not                                                               
everyone leaving prison  has a valid driver's license  or ID. The                                                               
Department  of  Corrections  (DOC) recognizes  this  problem  and                                                               
currently  provides people  leaving  an institution  with a  face                                                               
sheet that has  the person's photo and name. The  person can take                                                               
this  face sheet  to the  Division  of Motor  Vehicles (DMV)  and                                                               
obtain a  driver's license, if  applicable, or an ID  card, which                                                               
the DOC pays for. However, this is an imperfect solution.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
4:04:15 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  related that  those in  the reentry  community say                                                               
there have been problems with  the face sheets and repeated trips                                                               
to DMV  have been necessary.  These trips can  take up to  half a                                                               
day and  take time away from  meeting with a probation  or parole                                                               
officer, obtaining treatment, or applying  for jobs. It is also a                                                               
problem that  these individuals will  leave DMV with  a temporary                                                               
ID  or  license. A  mailing  address  is  required to  get  their                                                               
permanent card or  license and people coming out  of prison often                                                               
do not have that right away.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR KIEHL emphasized that if  inmates who serve a significant                                                               
amount   of  time   in  prison   could  leave   the  correctional                                                               
institution  with an  ID card  or  license, it  would remove  one                                                               
barrier   to  successful   reentry.   This   could  help   reduce                                                               
recidivism, he said.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:05:49 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  WILSON  asked   how  this  will  address   the  REAL  ID                                                               
requirements.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  KIEHL answered  that the  bill does  not cover  REAL ID,                                                               
although  some in  the  reentry  community would  like  to add  a                                                               
provision to include  REAL ID. He related  his understanding that                                                               
DOC has begun to look at REAL ID,  but he could not speak for the                                                               
department.  He said  it  is  worth noting  that  most people  on                                                               
probation  and parole  and probably  have  restrictions on  their                                                               
travel so they  may need to pursue REAL  IDs later. Nevertheless,                                                               
this  is worth  looking  because solving  that additional  hurdle                                                               
would be a benefit.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:07:34 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK asked  Ms. Olsen from DMV if people  on probation and                                                               
parole  who  have travel  restrictions  would  be prevented  from                                                               
obtaining a REAL ID.                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:08:03 PM                                                                                                                    
JOANNE  OLSEN,  Interim  Director,  Division  of  Motor  Vehicles                                                               
(DMV), Department of  Administration, Anchorage, Alaska, answered                                                               
that people with  an existing DMV record would be  eligible for a                                                               
noncompliant federal  ID. If they want  to obtain a REAL  ID, the                                                               
division  will give  the person  the information  needed and  the                                                               
contacts  to   obtain  a  certified  birth   certificate,  social                                                               
security card, or whatever the requirements are at the time.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK  asked if the  noncompliant federal ID  would suffice                                                               
for those in reentry as identification for state agencies.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. OLSEN said that is correct.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
4:09:32 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR WILSON  asked what  information is  needed for  an update                                                               
when the person already has a REAL ID.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. OLSEN  answered that the  person's information  would already                                                               
have been verified so that person could get a duplicate REAL ID.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON commented on the  number of people in pretrial who                                                               
are felons  who have not  been charged  [sic] and asked  how this                                                               
bill would affect the pretrial population.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR COGHILL  asked if he  meant that the defendants  have not                                                               
yet been convicted of felonies.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON agreed  that he was referring  to convictions, not                                                               
charges.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
4:10:53 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  KIEHL  answered  that  the bill  would  apply  to  those                                                               
offenders who  have been sentenced  and have served at  least 120                                                               
days. He said  DOC indicated that would give  the department time                                                               
to  work with  DMV to  get  the state  ID or  license issued  and                                                               
transferred  to  the  DOC  prior  to  the  person's  release.  He                                                               
explained that  it is tough to  know when those in  pretrial will                                                               
be  released.  The  bill  seeks  to  establish  a  practical  and                                                               
workable program that  DOC could implement once  the bill becomes                                                               
effective.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
4:11:42 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR  COGHILL commented  that  it could  be complicated  since                                                               
some  people  in  pretrial  have  been  previously  convicted  on                                                               
another  charge.   He  agreed  with   the  concept   since  those                                                               
reentering society cannot obtain any help without a valid ID.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK asked the sponsor  to explain the ID process outlined                                                               
in the bill.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
4:12:24 PM                                                                                                                    
SENATOR KIEHL  stated that  SB 209 would  apply to  the sentenced                                                               
population.  He  suggested  that the  Department  of  Corrections                                                               
could best explain the practical  details of the process to issue                                                               
an ID.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
4:14:22 PM                                                                                                                    
KELLY  HOWELL,  Legislative  Liaison, Department  of  Corrections                                                               
(DOC),  Anchorage, Alaska,  stated that  the sponsor  worked with                                                               
DOC to  make sure that  this process  would work for  the agency.                                                               
She  explained   that  Section  3  requires   the  Department  of                                                               
Corrections  and  the Department  of  Administration  to work  to                                                               
ensure that  an inmate leaving  a correctional institution  has a                                                               
state  identification prior  to release.  She suggested  that Ms.                                                               
Brooks could speak to the logistics.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
4:15:29 PM                                                                                                                    
LAURA   BROOKS,  Operations   Manager,  Division   of  Health   &                                                               
Rehabilitation  Services, Department  of Corrections,  Anchorage,                                                               
Alaska,  advised   that  DOC  currently  provides   inmates  with                                                               
identification  and under  the bill  would provide  DMV something                                                               
similar, including a photo. The DMV  would mail DOC the hard copy                                                               
of the ID and DOC would give it to the inmate.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK asked if DOC has the capacity to do this.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS answered  yes. The department currently  has a process                                                               
in  place to  print  the information  and  update inmate  photos.                                                               
Inmates  are   photographed  during   the  booking   process  and                                                               
periodically thereafter,  as necessary.  She said  the department                                                               
has  not worked  out  the details  for this  process,  but it  is                                                               
feasible.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON  asked if DOC  has updated its cameras  similar to                                                               
what DMV has done.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MS. BROOKS  said she was not  certain when the cameras  were last                                                               
upgraded, but she would follow up with the information.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON  questioned the  zero fiscal  note since  it would                                                               
require an inmate to leave the facility with an ID.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
4:17:38 PM                                                                                                                    
MS. HOWELL answered that not every  offender will need an ID. She                                                               
reported  that   typically  about   12  percent  of   the  prison                                                               
population  has  requested  a  paper  ID  to  take  to  DMV.  The                                                               
department  believes it  has the  capacity to  take this  on with                                                               
existing staff and budget.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILSON expressed interest in  the figures and an estimate                                                               
of any  increases. He said he  would defer to the  next committee                                                               
to further consider the impact.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  REVAK noted  that the  next committee  of referral  is the                                                               
finance committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
4:19:23 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK  asked if  DOC currently  has a  working relationship                                                               
with DMV and, if so, in what capacity.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MS. HOWELL answered yes; the  Department of Corrections (DOC) and                                                               
the Department  of Administration  (DOA) have worked  together on                                                               
the REAL ID issues.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK asked Ms. Olsen for her perspective on SB 209.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MS. OLSEN answered that DMV has worked well with DOC.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR REVAK said  he attended a reentry simulation  and this bill                                                               
likely stems from that process. It  was a wakeup call to see what                                                               
people   might   experience   as  they   reintegrate   from   DOC                                                               
institutions into the communities.  He expressed appreciation for                                                               
the intent of SB 209.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
4:21:40 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK opened public testimony on SB 209.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:22:06 PM                                                                                                                    
LINDA  SETTERBERG,  Coordinator,  Reentry  Coalition,  Fairbanks,                                                               
Alaska,  stated support  for SB  209. She  said it  has been  the                                                               
coalition's experience  that obtaining an ID  or driver's license                                                               
is a barrier  for some clients. Receiving an ID  before leaving a                                                               
correctional facility would facilitate the reentry experience.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
4:23:14 PM                                                                                                                    
CHAIR REVAK closed  public testimony on SB 209 and  held the bill                                                               
in committee for future consideration.                                                                                          

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
SB 209 Sponsor Statement 2.25.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 209
SB 209 Sectional Analysis v. K 2.25.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 209
SB 210 Statutes 3.6.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 210
SB 210-DMV License Plates 3.6.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 210
SB 210-Sponsor Statement 3.6.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 210
SB 210-Backup- License Plate Legislation Past Ten Years 3.6.2020.pdf SSTA 3/12/2020 3:30:00 PM
SB 210